pure ignorance. there are so many things about this that make me angry, but I'm not even going to get started. (edit: I did get started, in fact. read my response below.)
Original message:
Obama's positions Wake up America
Body:
Let me name a few of Obama's
positions and see if they give you goose bumps.
Obama, the most liberal senator in
America
believes:
1.
Abortion should be available in
all nine months of a woman's pregnancy.
2.
Parents should not be notified
when their 13-year old girls go in for an abortion.
3.
That any and all bans on partial
birth abortion should be removed.
4.
The radical homosexual agenda to
destroy traditional marriage should be supported.
5.
There should be "special rights"
for people who engage in homosexuality and should be given special consideration on issues of employment, housing and litigation.
6.
"Hate crimes" legislation should
be passed, which could be used to silence pastors who believe homosexuality is a sin (Doug Giles, Townhall. com, 6-23)
Revised this note with my response:
Let me name a few of Obama's
positions and see if they give you goose bumps.
Obama, the most liberal senator in
America
believes:
1.
Abortion should be available in
all nine months of a woman's pregnancy.
Quote from Obama:
On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that.
Part of the reason they didn't have it was purposeful, because those who are opposed to abortion have a moral calling to try to oppose what they think is immoral. Oftentimes what they were trying to do was to polarize the debate and make it more difficult for people, so that they could try to bring an end to abortions overall.
As president, my goal is to bring people together, to listen to them, and I don't think that's any Republican out there who I've worked with who would say that I don't listen to them, I don't respect their ideas, I don't understand their perspective. And my goal is to get us out of this polarizing debate where we're always trying to score cheap political points and actually get things done.
Source: Fox News Sunday: 2008 presidential race interview Apr 27, 2008
*You can’t force morality on a person. The right to choose is a right.
2.
Parents should not be notified
when their 13-year old girls go in for an abortion.
Quote from Obama:
Some States have parental consent laws, some don't. In my particular State, it has been voted down because my people feel that if you ask them, "Do they want their kids to come to their parents?", absolutely. But if you ask them, "Should you force them to do so, even in circumstances where there could be trouble that comes from that?", they say no.
This bill emanates from a desire that our children come to us when we have family matters, when our children are in trouble, that they not be fearful, that they not be afraid that they disappoint us, that they be open with us and loving toward us, and we toward them. This is what we want to have happen. The question is: Can Big Brother Federal Government force this on our families? That is where we will differ.
Reference: Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act; Bill S.403 ; vote number 2006-216 on Jul 25, 2006
3.
That any and all bans on partial
birth abortion should be removed.
From Obama:
On an issue like partial birth abortion, I strongly believe that the state can properly restrict late-term abortions. I have said so repeatedly. All I've said is we should have a provision to protect the health of the mother, and many of the bills that came before me didn't have that.
Source: Fox News Sunday: 2008 presidential race interview Apr 27, 2008
And:
In 1997, Obama voted against SB 230, which would have turned doctors into felons by banning so-called partial-birth abortion, & against a 2000 bill banning state funding. Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn't include anything about abortions necessary to protect the health of the mother. The legislation defined a fetus as a person, & could have criminalized virtually all abortion.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.147-148 Oct 30, 2007
*If a woman wants an abortion, she's going to get one. Period. My grandmother said that when she was younger, a man used to "perform" them in his garage. His GARAGE.
One more:
I think that most Americans recognize that this is a profoundly difficult issue for the women and families who make these decisions. They don't make them casually. And I trust women to make these decisions in conjunction with their doctors and their families and their clergy. And I think that's where most Americans are. Now, when you describe a specific procedure that accounts for less than 1% of the abortions that take place, then naturally, people get concerned, and I think legitimately so. But the broader issue here is: Do women have the right to make these profoundly difficult decisions? And I trust them to do it. There is a broader issue: Can we move past some of the debates around which we disagree and can we start talking about the things we do agree on? Reducing teen pregnancy; making it less likely for women to find themselves in these circumstances.
Source: 2007 South Carolina Democratic primary debate, on MSNBC Apr 26, 2007
*Isn’t increasing awareness and eliminating ignorance what’s really important here?
4.
The radical homosexual agenda to destroy traditional marriage should be supported.
From Obama:
Well, to answer the original question, I would love that child and seek to support them (when asked how he would respond to a gay child). I believe that marriage is between a man and a woman but I detest the bashing and vilifying of gays and lesbians. Most gays and lesbians are seeking basic recognition of their rights so they're not discriminated against in employment or renting a house, so they can see their partner in a hospital. These are rights for everybody, not just some people.
Source: Illinois Senate Debate #3: Barack Obama vs. Alan Keyes Oct 21, 2004
*I differ with Obama here because I strongly feel that gays should be allowed to marry. Marriage should not be between a man and a woman but instead two people who love and care about each other very much. However, there are many benefits that come along with civil unions, and so they should be allowed.
Also:
One of Obama's pragmatic stands troubling to progressives is on gay marriage. In the Senate debate, Obama opposed the right-wing Federal Marriage Amendment to ban gay marriage nationally and said: "I agree with most Americans, with Democrats and Republicans, with Vice President Cheney, with over 2,000 religious leaders of all different beliefs, that decisions about marriage, as they always have, should be left to the states." However, Obama also declared, "Personally, I do believe that marriage is between a man and a woman." At the same time, Obama has strongly supported civil unions, arguing that it is a way to protect equal rights without taking the politically risky approach of gay marriage.
Source: The Improbable Quest, by John K. Wilson, p.114-115 Oct 30, 2007
Let the states decide. And if you don’t like it, move.
5.
There should be "special rights"
for people who engage in homosexuality (*How does someone engage in homosexuality? Can you engage in heterosexuality? Never heard it put that way before.)
and should be given special consideration on issues of employment, housing and litigation.
Obama has said, "I don't think homosexuals are immoral any more than I think heterosexuals are immoral."
Also:
It is my strong belief that the government has to treat all citizens equally. I come from that in part out of personal experience. When you're a black guy named Barack Obama, you know what it's like to be on the outside. And so my concern is continually to make sure that the rights that are conferred by the state are equal for all people.
That's why I opposed DOMA in 2006 when I ran for the Senate. That's why I am a strong supporter not of a weak version of civil unions, but of a strong version, in which the rights that are conferred at the federal level to persons who are part of the same sex union are compatible.
When it comes to federal rights, the over 1,100 rights that right now are not being given to same sex couples, I think that's unacceptable, and as president of the United States, I am going to fight hard to make sure that those rights are available.
Special rights? Should all human beings be promised the same rights? Does that mean that heterosexuals are allowed special rights?
6.
"Hate crimes" legislation should
be passed, which could be used to silence pastors who believe homosexuality is a sin (Doug Giles, Townhall. com, 6-23)
This one I had some trouble finding exactly what was being discussed, but I found this great blog about the issue:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-montgomery/more-lies-from-the-suppos_b_47600.html
A great quote that sums it up:
“It could not be clearer that this bill has nothing to do with silencing preachers and everything to do with prosecuting violent hate crimes.”
A few more things…
Protect a woman's right to choose
For almost a decade, Obama has been a leader in the Illinois legislature in the battle to protect a woman's right to choose and promote equal economic rights and opportunities.
Source: Campaign website, ObamaForIllinois.com May 2, 2004
We can find common ground between pro-choice and pro-life
I absolutely think we can find common ground. And it requires a couple of things. It requires us to acknowledge that..
There is a moral dimension to abortion, which I think that all too often those of us who are pro-choice have not talked about or tried to tamp down. I think that's a mistake because I think all of us understand that it is a wrenching choice for anybody to think about.
People of good will can exist on both sides. That nobody wishes to be placed in a circumstance where they are even confronted with the choice of abortion. How we determine what's right at that moment, I think, people of good will can differ.
And if we can acknowledge that much, then we can certainly agree on the fact that we should be doing everything we can to avoid unwanted pregnancies that might even lead somebody to consider having an abortion.
Source: 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008
Teach teens about abstinence and also about contraception
We've actually made progress over the last several years in reducing teen pregnancies, for example. And what I have consistently talked about is to take a comprehensive approach where we focus on abstinence, where we are teaching the sacredness of sexuality to our children.
But we also recognize the importance of good medical care for women, that we're also recognizing the importance of age-appropriate education to reduce risks. I do believe that contraception has to be part of that education process.
And if we do those things, then I think that we can reduce abortions and I think we should make sure that adoption is an option for people out there. If we put all of those things in place, then I think we will take some of the edge off the debate.
We're not going to completely resolve it. At some point, there may just be an irreconcilable difference. And those who are opposed to abortion, I think, should continue to be able to lawfully object and try to change the laws.
Source: 2008 Democratic Compassion Forum at Messiah College Apr 13, 2008
As a woman, thank you, Senator Obama.
Am I supposed to vote for McCain because he is the non-evil choice? Because he is so very well versed at telling people what he thinks they want to hear? Why can’t people take the time to understand what’s really at stake here—our God-given rights. Don’t hide behind your Bible or racial prejudices as reason why not to vote Obama.
The most important thing to think about when voting is to vote for a reason, not because of what your best friend or parents or church tells you. Make educated choices and decisions. Know the facts.
Again, I just want to reiterate why I wrote this note. It was mainly because I have a problem with the way someone's words got so twisted around. This is just my rebuttal to someone’s choice to dash off a thoughtless collection of nonsense.
Thursday, July 10, 2008
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